“love is so important”: a dialogue on love.
Sunday night, I posted four words on my Facebook page: “love is so important.” Doing so resulted in a very interesting, enlightening, and inspiring dialogue. I’m still meditating on the truths revealed in this conversation and hope they are of some value to you.
love is so important.
Sonny: NO SHIT! It’s crazy cause sometimes [it’s] hard to come by. Real Love anyways! and People abuse [it] like its in abundance. only thing in abundance in this world these days is corruption.
Kalifa: You can do anything with Love, but nothing can be accomplished without it.
Leandra: nothing but destruction. @sonny corrupted love is in abundance. i think love is everywhere, but it’s hard to see it behind all the lenses and filters…
Sonny: yes I agree. People don’t want to be loved they want to be secure in the falsehood of 401k’s, spring trips to Turks, A lease on a Lexus, a marriage based on business, Love falls far behind this other priorities. people have a tuff time accepting love and honest. Like Jack Nicholas said “you can’t handle the Truth”.
Leandra: “you can’t handle the truth.” word. most times, no.
“people don’t want to be loved…” i disagree. i think they do. i think they do desperately, but they don’t know how to be loved. and they don’t know how to love. they don’t know how to love and accept themselves so extending it to others is impossible. this is my daily task. for real. i wish it were the same for others.
all the superficial accouterments people seek to gain and glorify are simply temporary fillers for a deeper hole that can only be satisfied with something real, honest, and pure.
Kalifa: I like the progression of the discussion… in addition… These days I believe people look at Love like they look at God. If you ask people do they believe in God they say “Yes”, but they live as if it does not exist, and rationalize their selfish behavior and always throw out the grand cliche “its between me and God” or “I am not ready to give my life to God”. How can you give something you never owned to begin with. (rationalized irrationality) . When you ask people do they believe in Love they say “Yes”, but they live as if it does not exist, and rationalize their selfish behavior and always throw out another grand cliche “I am not ready for love” or “I have not found the one for me yet”. How can one ever find something that they are not willing to be. again (rationalize irrationality)… Most people are selfish lazy cowards… yes it is true and sad… too selfish to give and not possibly not receive, too lazy to work for something that does not come easier than a one-night-stand, and too cowardice to stand up for something alone for fear of being hurt.
Myriam: Your last comment did my soul some good. People DO want to be desperately loved. I think what you said there is important.
Sonny: I think people want love but fear it. its like God or the creator. a lot of people want to connect with the creator but if “God” as they say was to appear in some form and speak to them personally they would shit their pants. in Fact God is “Love” so when you appear before the uncivilized jezebel or hoodlum and press on with pure unselfish love they fear the power of the very creator that has assigned you that energy to that person. GOD IS LOVE!!
Leandra: i LOVE the progression of the discussion. 🙂
“How can one ever find something that they are not willing to be. again (rationalize irrationality)… Most people are selfish lazy cowards… yes it is true and sad… too selfish to give and not possibly not receive, too lazy to work for something that does not come easier than a one-night-stand, and too cowardice to stand up for something alone for fear of being hurt.” – @kalifa
🙂 spiritual advancement/self-mastery is only attained through the willingness to be honest with oneself, i’ve learned…and i’m learning. it’s a constant, active process. sonny was right about not being able to handle the truth. we CAN handle the truth, but we choose not to based on our own willingness to be an active agent of progressive and positive change in our lives. it hurts! yes. it’s like exercising and being physically active though. when you’re out of shape, it hurts and it’s unappealing. your body grows tired quickly. but after some time of constantly meeting and successfully battling your own resistance.
it’s going to hurt. but the growth is necessary. what doesn’t grow is dead. stagnation is spiritually stifling; it kills you. the older i get, the more connected i am to the power and purpose of love. and truth.
being honest and open shouldn’t be scary. but we get hazed out of that natural process.
we have to dedicate ourselves to them truly and fully.
we have to take the journey into the depths of ourselves with love and compassion towards ourselves in order to do so honestly with and for others.
Kalifa: I think people just need to look to God… I know people have different religious beliefs, but I know the BIBLE is a good place to figure out what love is. The stories inside teach people how to be unselfish and helps people to understand that losing for love is not losing, it is insightful. However trying to win for love can sometimes equate to a loss. Sometimes getting caught up on the facts can make people lose sight of the main point, and that point is that Love is the only thing that is going to fulfill us through and through, and that it is worth seeking even if it is never found in another man/woman to give it back to you, because God has and will always give what you seek. Anything else is like a bottomless pit, you only fill less fulfilled, regretful, and then depressed, and then repeat the same process expecting a different result. Life is but a blink of an eye, and most people think that “hey I better do everything, before I die”, but they only end up deferring something greater. Love. I would rather work a lifetime for that one Love, than live a lifetime experiencing an unlimited amount of fleshly encounters, which could derail someone else off their path… I found true love in a false love that broke my heart so bad that I wanted to die. But in that pain, I realized how much more special and rare, true love really is, because if false love could make me feel so close to fulfilled but I always felt like something was missing, but I thought that it would eventually grow… the True Love would totally fulfill me which would be worth the journey and sacrifice of any carnal desire. In the end I realized that It was not about me finding love, but it was about me being the love that I sought while having the courage to do so even if I would never find the love that I so desired. Its like deciding not to settle for less, but there is a possibility that you could end up by yourself for making such a choice. The question people have to ask themselves is “Would you still do right if you knew that you would not go to heaven?” and as far as Love goes, “Would you still be the love that you seek if you knew that you would not find the love that you seek?”… scary stuff for most people…. If people find the will to be selfless, find the strength to overcome laziness, and the courage to stand alone in their beliefs we all would be what we seek… Love is giving like a hand, palms facing upward, open for giving, once it is empty from giving, then it is open to receive, but a selfish hand’s palms are always facing downward, always dropping things, discarding things, looking to take more but cannot hold on to anything and cannot receive from God because the palm is facing downward not ready to receive because blessing come from above not from below. We just have to trust what God says because there is always a lesson that we don’t know… We just have to have faith that all will be well although it is scary and confusing… the greatest lesson I have ever learned…. sorry for the long response, once I feel it just comes out.
Leandra: @kalifa, NO need to be sorry. we need to do this more often. this –tonight– is a blessing. 🙂 this is a dialogue we need to have, a truth we ALL need to face. thank you for your contribution. sincerely. myriam and sonny, too. 🙂 i appreciate this.
we’re all constantly in the process of becoming. we’re constantly becoming better, higher versions of ourselves…by going through trying, not succeeding but learning valuable lessons that allow us to succeed in later attempts.
but we have to keep attempting. keep showing up in our own lives. as a hero. our hero with enough courage to have the faith to take the journey… to risk the unknown and travel into the unknown. to live honest, free, loving lives.
this is not just about embarking upon romantic love. it’s about embarking upon LIFE.
there is no life without love. everything withers in its absence and thrives in its presence.
but thriving is also the result of a process. cycles.
…hurts but it’s necessary.
kind of like lobsters. during the first 5-7 years of a lobster’s life, they shed their shell about 25 times, and about once/year after that. the old shell is discarded when the lobster grows out of it.
shedding your old, ill-fitting shell* makes you vulnerable to all the elements, but itâ€™s necessary for growth.
be courageous. be willing to be vulnerable.
*shell = defense mechanisms, fears, reactions, everything taught to you as a child that you continue to use despite its antiquity and lack of service to your highest good.
(from one of my #notetoself)
This conversation really helped me to see myself a bit more clearly and honestly as I continue to reflect on love. I wrote a post called “Is your love love?” last year that loosely corresponds to the above conversation.
Please feel free to share your thoughts and experiences.
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